Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Hey Bharon! It’s great to see you. Thank you for joining us for our UAC Hot Seat.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Welcome, Bharon!
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: We’ve… What’s that?
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Oh, I just said Welcome.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Oh, sorry. I missed that. Okay, so anyways, I’m so happy you’re here. Bharon, I know that you’ve been UAC for several years, what your first UAC was… I remember I was with you, but which one was that?
Bharon Hoag: Cabo, actually, in February of ’21.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Cabo!
Dr. Lynne Mouw: What a great introduction.
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, no kidding. Actually, changed the course of my life, to be honest with you. So, I’ll always remember that year, for sure.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Tell us how you ended up in Cabo.
Bharon Hoag: So, obviously, I’ve been in the industry for 26 years, doing various different things for chiropractic, and I had known Brian, Dr. Brian Capra, who owns Genesis software for a number of years. We would see each other at different events, I used to speak at a lot of state association events, and a good friend of mine, Jay Greenstein, which I got into UAC, he’s now a member of UAC, he introduced me to Brian and so Brian and I kind of hit it off, which is normally the case when people don’t know who I am and then they meet me and they’re kind of blown away that I’m not a chiropractor, but I have the passion and the love for the profession doing the things that I do. They’re always fascinated.
Bharon Hoag: And he’s like, “Man, have you ever heard of this organization?” And I was like, “No.” And he’s like, “You would be perfect for it.” He goes, “They allow non-chiros and it’s your kind of people.” And so, I just honestly, I was like, “Alright, I’ll check it out.” I was looking for something at that point, my mentor had just passed away, Dr. Tom Klapp in Michigan. And so, I was just kind floundering a little bit, looking for my place, and so when he mentioned that to me, I was like, “Alright, I’ll give it a shot.” And the very next meeting happened to be Cabo in the middle of the pandemic, and so for those of us that went, remember having to get swabs up our nose we’re… We were going to get stuck in Mexico for two weeks.
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Bharon Hoag: Yeah, exactly. We were… Squirting all kinds of stuff. Well, you guys got smart because you guys ended up telling them you were doctors and swabbing yourself, and you were swabbing your ears.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Covid test, anyone?
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, exactly, exactly. But anyway, so that was my… That was my first experience and it just, it literally has changed my course because of a conversation I had with Dr. Steve Franson and Allen Miner next to the pool. And that’s actually where our organization, the Chiropractic Defense counsel came from, was in Cabo, sitting next to the pool as Steve was kind of quizzing me about who I am, and we knew each other, we’d been in circles, but we’d never actually sat and had a conversation, which honestly is what I love about UAC. I absolutely love that there’s no other environment in the profession, and this is going to sound kind of arrogant, and I don’t mean it that way, but that people like us can actually just sit in fellowship and not be pulled in a million directions.
Bharon Hoag: We can’t do it at TRP events, I can’t do it at my events because we’re pulled in so many different directions, state events, national events, there’s just too much going on. UAC does a phenomenal job of allowing those of us that are so crazy busy to actually stop and fellowship, and we have similar strains and similar stuck areas and similar wins. And that was my first experience. There were 30 of us there, I got to know people very well, lots of fellowship time and yeah, it’s just kind of grown from there.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: So, the magic happened, right next to the pool, I love it.
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: I definitely want to dive more into OneChiropractic because that is just huge what you guys are doing, what for the entire profession is truly ground-breaking. Oh, my goodness, excuse me. But let’s go back, I want to dive in. Your story is so unique, you’re not a chiropractor, but you’re so passionate and on fire for chiropractic. So, take us back. How did this all begin for you?
Bharon Hoag: Oh, I’ll try to do the short story because I could talk about this forever, because I love my story. God is so good. His infinite wisdom and His timing is so perfect. And my life is just… All of our lives are an example of that, but I just claim it, I can see it and then so thankful for it. I, listen, my carnal nature is I’m a con artist. I have the gift of gab, it just is… I have… People laugh, but I’m just being serious, I’ve been able to talk my way out of everything from the moment I came out of the womb, and I get myself out of trouble a lot of times with that. I got saved at 19 and started realizing I could use my superpower for good and not evil and ended up getting to Ohio to go to a Christian university, and my story is kind of crazy because I don’t do anything right the first time, I really don’t.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: I’m one of those guys that I jump and then I wonder where I’m going, and then I’ll figure out how I’m going to survive from the jump, it’s just… I’m not proud of it, it’s just who I am, and I’ve gotten really good at falling and getting myself back up. But I ended up having a daughter at 19 years old, and I just had to pull my bootstraps up, I didn’t know what I was going to do. And so I just started applying to jobs, and I got a job at a chiropractors office, and I didn’t know anything about chiropractic. I’d never been, no one in my family had ever been. I was very skeptical of it when I watched what an adjustment I was, I was like, “Hell no, you’re not doing that to… ” So I see that on TV and it’s not to restore life, that is the exact opposite of what I want in my life, but they were going to bonus me on closing people, so they sent me to David Singer seminars for those that may remember Singer and his whole primary script and four-day report of findings, so I mastered those things within my first couple of months of working there.
Bharon Hoag: I went back to the clinic and I started closing care plans and I got bonus. So, I just was a con artist. I was just doing what I had to do to pay the bills and to move on, I, honestly, I was. And I wasn’t under care at the time, I wouldn’t let him touch me, so as God always does, he has a way of stopping you in your tracks and getting your attention. And I’ll never forget it was July of 20… Excuse me, July of ’95. And I remember… Excuse me, I’ll get the dates right, July ’97. And I was sitting in my office and the patient came and we’ve all had this patient, we’ve all had the patient where their spouse loves chiropractic, they are committed, they’re fully in it. This guy’s wife was like that she was Medicare, and we literally had to tell her, “You cannot come in every day, your insurance will not cover it, we need you to… ” She just loved it and just felt so great with it. He comes in, his name is Jim, he has his arms folded. And he’s like, “You can’t help me. I’m 74 years old, I’m an old farmer. It’s just arthritis, but my wife will not stop nagging me, so I’m here to shut her up.” I’m like, “Great, give me two weeks. If at the end of two weeks, if you don’t, we don’t have this magical experience that she claims that you’re going to have well then you’re only out a couple of weeks and we’ll shut her up.” He’s like, “Alright, fair enough, I’ll give you two weeks.”
Bharon Hoag: So, I go on, I don’t even think again, anything about Jim, two weeks later or two weeks go by front desk like, “Hey, Jim wants to talk to you.” So, I’m assuming at this point that it didn’t work and he needed me to tell his wife so she’d leave him alone. So, I get in my office and I’m just like, “Alright, what’s up, Jim?” Well, I could tell on his face that he was in a completely… He wasn’t all guarded and blocked off, he was much softer and almost a little somber. I was like, “What’s going on, Jim?” He’s like, “Well, you know, I’m feeling a little bit better. But that’s not why I want to talk to you.” I’m like, “Okay, what’s up?” He goes, “I didn’t tell you this, but prior to coming here, and actually for the last 20 years, I’ve had issues wetting myself.” He used much more colorful terminology, but he’s like, “to the point that I don’t leave my house for more than 15-20 minutes at a time. We don’t vacation, we don’t go to nice restaurants, nothing because I refused to wear diapers and I was too embarrassed.
Bharon Hoag: And then he really started crying. Now understand this moment for me because I grew up with a Vietnam vet, my dad was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, like, emotions were not okay for a man. I just didn’t grow up seeing that happen. So, I’m 21 years old, I have this grown man crying in front of me, I don’t know what’s going on, I’m like on my heels, and I’m like, “Jim, what’s going on?” He started bawling and he goes, I want to thank you for giving me my life back, my wife and I went on a long date for the first time in 20 years, and I have you guys to thank for it.” And for whatever reason it was at that moment lightning striking in my life, and it just hit me to my core, and there were two things that were so fundamental about that time that have driven me to why I do what I do today.
Bharon Hoag: One of them, later that day, it was the day… I’m blown away by that moment I give him a hug, I’m like, “Jim, I’m so happy, I’m glad, congratulations.” He leaves my office, and I can kind of dumb founded… I’m like, I just don’t know what to think about what just happened. Later that day, when we got done with the day I asked my doc, I was like, “Hey, did you talk to Jim today?” He goes, “Yeah, just… We saw him for his visit.” And I was like, “He didn’t tell you?” He was like, “Well, tell me what?” So, I can just go tell him what happened, he was like, “Oh my gosh, no, he didn’t say anything to me.”
Bharon Hoag: And it hit me so hard at that moment that Jim went out of his way to thank me. I wasn’t the chiropractor; I didn’t do anything. It was that moment that day that I realized I did not have to have a DC after my name to change the world through chiropractic, literally, it was just as clear as I can see right now that I didn’t have to be a chiropractor, because at that moment, I was like any other CA that I felt my value was limited. It was capped at a certain level that I’m not the doctor, so I can’t do certain things. It’s the doc that has to do it and it was my scapegoat, it gave me an excuse not to try harder, not to say certain things. I had a specific job; I did my job and that was it. But that moment with Jim gave me the freedom to say, “Absolutely not, I can change people’s lives here.”
Bharon Hoag: And the second thing that hit me just as hard was that I had to understand this thing called chiropractic. Like how in the world did what I see happen every day give this 74-year-old man his life back? Now, mind you, I was 21, this is mid-90s. Seventy was pretty much we’re getting ready to bury you, the hole is dug, so how do you feel like your life is getting anywhere?
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Bharon Hoag: Yeah, right? So just that moment, I made a decision. I’ll never forget, I’m like, I am going to change the world through chiropractic, so I started sending myself to seminars, literally, I’ve been to adjusting technique, I know how to adjust. I can explain the anatomy, the physiology, the neurology of the adjustment. I literally could hang with any chiropractor anywhere in the world explaining the power of the adjustment and why it affects our pre-frontal cortex, the difference between sympathetic and parasympathetic, I could literally do it all because I’ve sat through the classes, I’ve gotten certified in things, and I’m not even a licensed chiropractor, but I had to know. I couldn’t stand in front of a room and speak about it and not know it, that was just… As a con artist that was one of my things. I had to be the smartest guy in the conversation, it was the only way I was going to win.
Bharon Hoag: And so this thing, chiropractic, I had to know more than anyone else I was talking to. And so, I got very good at it, and I got very good at explaining it. I’m not that intelligent, I’m just a super passionate human, and so it’s kind of led me on this crazy path.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Incredible. I love this story so good, and I know that this has been taking you to OneChiropractic and then into the CDC, so describe that evolution a little bit as well.
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, so again, God’s thing. So, I started off just owning clinics back in the mid-90s when I got passionate, I started opening clinics and getting DCs out and doing buyout programs and all of that. When my name started getting out as this non-chiro that was making moves in Ohio, I started speaking on the tour, essentially, the state association started bringing me in as this passionate guy to fire people up. I got into coding and documentation, I was one of the first people that had a certification in coding when managed care really hit hard again in the late ’90s, and that’s where I really started spreading throughout the state associations and people started figuring out who I was. I was the guy that people would want to come and learn a coding because they didn’t make you want to hang your license up when you left. Most coding and documentation classes scare you to death, and they make you never want to see another patient.
Bharon Hoag: And so, I was the guy that was telling you what you could do, not what you can’t do. And so, I got a name for myself to be in this young energetic… I was, I’m the guy that was standing on chairs, throwing things at people, screaming at the top of my lungs, because in the same time I’m speaking, I’m going and I’m learning, I’m attending other seminars and I loved it that they would bring me into the state. I’d stay the whole weekend and attend to the other seminars; I can’t tell you how many of Mark Charrette and Mitch Mally’s classes I’ve sat through for extremities.
Bharon Hoag: And so, I got a name for myself. Had some issues in my marriage. I was a young ill prepared human to be married. Fell in love. My professional life was going crazy. My personal life was suffering because I was addicted to my professional life. And so, my wife gave me an ultimatum in the early 2000s, mid 2000s. And I sold all of my consulting businesses at the time, all my clinics then. And I ended up taking a job at the Ohio State Chiropractic Association. They, I didn’t interview, they kind of just offered me the job, but it got me off the road. It kept me in Ohio, but it also kept me in chiropractic. So, I felt like that was a great marriage. But that was my first time with the politics of chiropractic. Prior to this, I was just boots on the ground with chiropractors doing my thing and was very successful in doing so. The association was a crazy ride for me, man. I don’t do well with ignorant people telling me what I can and can’t do. It’s just…
Bharon Hoag: It’s a flaw in my character, for sure. And so that was my first example, dealing with boards and dealing with the politics of the profession. And I did it all wrong. I’ll be the first to tell you. I really did it all wrong. Although we made amazing growth when I started the association, we had 300 members when I left, we had 1200 and I was there for six years. And so, we did amazing things in Ohio. Really amazing things. I really screwed up a lot in the very beginning, just learning how to deal with the board, understanding how nonprofits are supposed to work. I had no experience in that. Got a lot of lumps on my face doing it. But I figured it out quick and we made some amazing strides, and we did amazing work in Ohio from 2010 to 2016. But I learned very quickly why the profession of chiropractic cannot advance itself. I literally saw it firsthand. I was also on the executive committee of the Congress of Chiropractic State Associations, which is a national organization. I was on the, that executive committee for five years, doing what everyone else does, trying to bring the ACA and ICA together, trying to get our profession to start working.
Bharon Hoag: It’s crazy. We have the best product on the planet, but we can’t get out of our own way. Like it’s just asinine to me. I can’t stand it. I can’t stand the dysfunction that our profession does on a higher level. We have rock stars on the front lines. They’re amazing chiropractors, but as in a profession, we’re horrible. Like, we don’t work well together. We’re very selfish, we’re very judgmental. We, it’s just not a good thing. So, I was able to fix some of that in Ohio. We created a culture, but then the whole drug issue came in where I had a group of doctors that wanted us to change the scope to include prescription of drugs, which will never happen in my lifetime. I’m telling you right now. Ever, ever will that happen if I can do anything about it and I refused to do it.
Bharon Hoag: So, they started running these coups at me and they started all these accusations, and they would sabotage our board meetings. And I hated it. I just hated the job. I couldn’t do it anymore because I wasn’t able to do what I loved. I wasn’t able to do what I did for the first five years, which was cause change and grow the utilization of chiropractic in Ohio. And we were the first state that got our governor to actually sign in a government, a government executive order that you had to fail conservative care, either chiropractic, which is specifically said that, or physical therapy before you could prescribe an opioid. Like we were the first one in the country to get that done. So, we were doing an amazing work, but then again, the perfection can’t get out of its own way.
Bharon Hoag: And so, I resigned and at that time I was so frustrated because of what we had built and what we were doing that was so amazing. But yet again, we could not get out of our own way. And there was a quote that just really changed, again, my perspective. It’s from Buckminster Fuller that says “You cannot change an existing reality by fighting it. You need to create a new model that makes the old model obsolete.” And that’s where OneChiropractic came from. It came from an idea that I want to create a new model. I want to do things very differently than how the profession is currently doing them. I don’t care who your loyalties are. ICA or ACA, both organizations have never really been able to capture the heart of our profession. Combined, both organizations paid membership have less than 8% of the profession as members combined. Like, I want you to just ponder that. These are our two national associations and we have less than 10% of the entire profession belonging to both of them combined. So, I’m not judging the individuals. I’m not judging, I’m just saying it clearly is not capturing the hearts and minds of the chiropractic profession because we can’t get all of our people under one roof for whatever reason. And so, I wanted to do something different. I believed that chiropractors wanted change. We needed leadership. We didn’t have the Fred Barges anymore. We didn’t have the Sid Williams, we didn’t have, you know, the Reggie Golds.
Bharon Hoag: They’re just gone. Like they, I’m not saying there aren’t good people, but nobody is that I’ll argue and stay narcissistic to stand up and tell everybody else that they’re wrong and create a following. And I felt like God had positioned me in a position that I could do that. I could stand on the stage, make very bold statements, and be willing to do some things that other people weren’t willing to say or do. And I knew the limitations of organizations. I ran one for six years. My hands were tied on certain things that I knew we needed to do, but I couldn’t do because of political relationships and liability and all of that. So, we created OneChiropractic, so it was a limbal organization, nonprofit that could immediately move and strike and do the work that needed to be done in the profession. And we believed that it would really capture the hearts and minds of our profession, beause we’re only funded, our whole funding mechanism is $33 a month, that’s it based on the 33 principles of chiropractic. So, we’re not asking for hundreds of thousands of dollars. We wanted a sustainable, reoccurring money source so that we could actually sustain long efforts.
Bharon Hoag: I’m in DC right now, I just got in today because I’m on the hill. I’m going to the DOD, the White House. I’m committed to getting chiropractors into our military. It is unacceptable that chiropractors cannot serve. That our active duty, do not have access to it, and so we’re able, but it’s a long battle getting the military to do any changes. It’s like pulling, you know, frozen syrup out of a hose. It just takes forever. [laughter] And so, but we have the capability of doing that because of our economic structure, right? We’re very narrow focused. We were only taking on issues that affect the rights of chiropractors. And so we can do that where other organizations can’t, they don’t have the funding. And so those are the types of things that we wanted to do with OneChiropractic. And then I met Stephen at Cabo, which we shared. And that’s where he gets all the credit for the idea of the Chiropractic Defense Council. We were doing the military work, we were doing some other things as a nonprofit, but he’s had, he had this vision for about seven years of the profession having its own actual special forces strike team that anywhere in the world that chiropractic’s under attack, you could deploy this team and we could defend the profession. At the time we had x-ray issues in British Columbia. They had taken away the rights of chiropractors in British Columbia to do routine x-rays. We had pediatric issues in Australia at that time.
Bharon Hoag: We had abuse and a massive attacks against chiropractors all over Canada by their regulatory boards. We had just went through a major battle in Texas with the Texas Medical Association trying to restrict the scope of practice for chiropractors. So, we have all these little fires all around the world where our professions under attack, but we don’t have any real organized effort to defend it. And as Stephen’s pitching this to me, I’m like, “Dude, that’s me. Like I can build that. I have the temperament to do that. I’ve already got an organization that’s perfect for it.” So he thankfully gave me that idea and said, “Man, I think you might be the operator I’ve been looking for to actually build this and do it.” And so, in February of ’21, we took on that as another project within OneChiropractic.
Bharon Hoag: And I’m honored to say today we’re in nine countries. We have over 3,500 contributors. We’ve won over 650 cases defending the rights of chiropractors all over the world, defending their right to practice without being vaccinated, defending their right to take x-rays, defending their right when regulatory boards come after them. And it’s been an insane year and a half of standing on the front lines on behalf of this profession, and with all due respect, kicking ass. And I’m proud of it. I love it. We’ve got five battles going on in Canada right now. I’m headed to Australia right after UAC Scottsdale. I’m headed to Australia, New Zealand for three weeks. And we’re meeting with legislators. We’re meeting with authorities. We’re rallying the troops to grow chiropractic in those countries and take back our vitalistic mindset of what chiropractic truly is, because we’ve got an army now that we can stand and defend the rights of chiropractors to speak that truth.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Oh man, I have chill bumps. Like I’m just sitting here listening to this passion and what this what you’re, as what this has done for our profession. And I also just love the collaboration. So that’s the true spirit of the UAC that minds came together and formed this great big idea and this big great big dream that’s now coming to fruition. And what a time like, talk about God’s timing.
Bharon Hoag: Oh, absolutely.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: The pandemic and just all of the fights that you guys have been fighting. Tell the listeners, how can we get involved with your organization?
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, it’s very simple. Again, I know it seems crazy and I love that people get passionate. People are like, “Man, we want to do more.” The key to our survival is just, I need as many people doing the $33 a month as I can. So go to defendchiropractic.org. It’s just pretty simple, defendchiropractic.org. You’ll see there’s stuff on there we did just release. I’m very excited. We just released a 23-page bill of rights. First time a profession has ever drawn a line in the sand saying, “These are our rights as a profession, and we are going to… We are going to defend those rights.” And so, it’s an awesome document that we’re hoping spreads throughout the profession worldwide, and it really explains who we are and what we’re doing. But you’ll see that on our landing page, just hit the contribute now button.
Bharon Hoag: If you wanted to give more, you definitely have the ability to do that. I’m never going to say no to that, but my goal is to get 15,000 people giving $33 a month. If we can get 15,000 people giving $33 a month, that gives us just under $9 million a year, that is completely dedicated to the defense of chiropractic that will… I’ve been able to do everything I’ve done on just under a million. So, like, imagine the battles we can take on. Imagine the fights we can sustain when I have 9 million, like literally we could take on big pharma, believe it or not, because we now have 39 attorneys worldwide on retainer. These are people that have been educated, trained that the adjustment is not about pain. The adjustment is about neurological input. It’s about wellness, vitality, the human body’s ability to actually self-heal.
Bharon Hoag: Self-regulate, right? So, these are people that get it. Even in DC if our lobbyists, I have our whole lobbying firm under chiropractic care now. And so, when we go in and we’re talking about the military and chiropractic, these people are talking about their own stories and their own effects. They’re forwarding me constantly information about different things that we can take in. So that’s the work that we do. And these are the kinds of people. Imagine if I could amplify that. And they’re… And I’m having to say no now more than I can yes, because we have limited resources. People are seeing our success and how we work, but I have to be very, very picky about what we take on. Because I can’t… I don’t have the money to take on everything, and I’m not going to take on something if we can’t defend it and do it right?
Bharon Hoag: So, but yeah, that’s the business. I need as many people as possible giving me 33 bucks that’s less than one adjustment a month. That’s it. And because I want it to sustain, I need it to rebuild every month. That’s the whole goal. If you give me a thousand bucks a month, as much as I’m of appreciative of it, I got to find out how to replace that thousand next month. I’d rather you just gimme 33 over a long period of time so that I don’t have to go out and fundraise, which is my least favorite thing on the planet to do.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: [laughter] So get on there and get it, get signed up if you guys aren’t already contributing. I know we’ve been contributing ever since.
Bharon Hoag: Yeah, you guys have been doing it for a while. Yeah.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: It’s like, it’s one of those things that it just feels so good. Like Bharon, you can tell you’re just such a Bethel and your purpose and passion is so contagious and so incredible. We’re so blessed as chiropractors to have you in our profession. And thank you so much for joining us today. Any big closing remarks as far as when it comes to UAC? Like I do have a good accountability group. Do you have anything you want to, like, really just contribute some of your success to today? Just that has come, obviously this huge collaboration has come out of UAC but I’m just so, I’m so happy that you’re a part of it.
Bharon Hoag: Well, yeah, thank you. Honestly y’all, I’ll leave you with this. As much as I appreciate people thanking me, it is literally the honor of my life to do what I’m doing. My daughter just graduated Sherman, she just started in our clinic, in January, and so… My son heads off to Life in October. This is my life, this is… Yes, I’m doing it because I love it, but I’m doing it for my future generations, like we are going to have Seventh Generation chiropractors in our family, and I want our profession to be worthy of my kids, if I’m being 100% honest. And right now, I don’t think it is, the people are worthy of them, but the profession isn’t, we’re dysfunctional, we don’t operate well, and so I do the work for that reason. UAC, I was talking with Jay Greenstein, because he’s such a good friend. Jay and I both… The thing we love about UAC, I have an amazing accountability group shout out to Brad and Kent, and Niles, I love you guys, but it’s just unlike anywhere else in the profession, for those of us that are all in. Like, you’re not going to meet anyone at UAC that’s not all in on something, and that’s what I love, because I’m an all-in kind of guy, and I can’t stand mediocrity.
Bharon Hoag: I mean I love people for the way they are, but I can’t be around it, because it drives me insane. So, UAC everybody is all in, everyone’s pushing each other, the whole environment, you’re around people that you want to be like. I remember as a kid, I was always told, “Surround yourself with people that are better than you because it’ll push you to want to be as good as they are. If you’re the best person in your group, you’re never going to grow.” So I’ve always had people that are better looking, have more money, have nicer houses because it drives me to work out a little bit harder, to work a little harder, to be smarter with my money, so UAC is that group for me. Again, you get to a certain point as just an average person in the profession that you kind of rise to the… You’re the cream of your own cup, you got to get into a different cup, and that’s what I love about UAC. So, people that are serious about wanting to elevate themselves and their impact in the world, nothing against any other consulting group or any other effort, there’s nothing like UAC, nothing in the world.
Bharon Hoag: And I’m honored to be with it. The whole way that it’s structured, the way that we do our meetings, and the way that we have so much fellowship time and build a life-long. I mean… Obviously, Lynne, you know I love your husband, and I’m kind of part of that group, and… So, they’re just great people, and I’m just honored to be there. It’s truly my honor as a non-chiro to be able to do the things that I get to do. It’s just beyond belief. So, I thank you guys for the opportunity to share today, and hopefully God can use my words to bless somebody in a new and exciting way, and part of that is to jump on board and support us, men, we’d sure love that. You’ll get a video from me every single Monday updating you on what we’re doing, why we’re doing it, you have an opportunity to be a part of that, and yeah, we’re just going to make sure that chiropractic becomes the number one healthcare choice in the world.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: I love it.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Well, that is a perfect way to end this. Thank you so much Bharon for being here. And I think if you’re listening to this, you can join us at our next event, and it will be in Austin on May 19th and 20th. If you haven’t reserved a room, reach out to Christa, email her, or check us on social, Instagram and Facebook.
Dr. Stephanie Rodsater: Thanks, Bharon.
Dr. Lynne Mouw: Thanks, Bharon.
